Toto Wolff: Max Verstappen's dominance is damaging F1 – it is up to us to find a solution

Red Bull's Max Verstappen celebrates after qualifying in pole position
It's that man again: Max Verstappen continued his dominance with pole for the Dutch Grand Prix at Zandvoort Credit: Reuters/Stephanie Lecocq

By Tom Cary, Senior Sports Correspondent, at Zandvoort

Toto Wolff conceded that Max Verstappen and Red Bull’s continued dominance of Formula One was damaging the sport, but said there was nothing to be done about it but to look at themselves.

Speaking after Verstappen took an emphatic pole position for Sunday’s Dutch Grand Prix, going six tenths faster than his nearest rival, McLaren’s Lando Norris, and an extraordinary 1.3sec faster than his own Red Bull teammate Sergio Perez - a gap Wolff described as “odd” - the Austrian said he could sympathise with neutrals.

“Unpredictability is what makes the sport exciting,” he said. “That’s not happening because one team and one driver are doing a much better job than anyone else. We need to acknowledge that. It’s down to us to find solutions.”

Verstappen is chasing what would be a record-equalling ninth consecutive win this weekend and is odds on to get it. The double world champion did have to survive a couple of scares en route to pole.

Heavy rain ahead of qualifying had made the track treacherous and the Dutchman almost beached his car in a trap in Q1, managing to make it through and out onto an exit road around the perimeter. “Mate, what the f--- is going on with the car,” he told his race engineer Gianpiero Lambiase. “I’ve got no grip. I’m spinning everything everywhere.”

Verstappen had another heart-in-mouth moment at the start of his final run in Q3, after a couple of red flag delays brought about by crashes involving Williams’ Logan Sargeant and Ferrari’s Charles Leclerc.

Max Verstappen on his way to yet another pole in front of his 'Orange Army' of fans Credit: Getty Images/John Thys

“I started the lap, I went into turn one and I thought ‘that’s it’,” Verstappen claimed afterwards. “I braked way too late. So probably my turn one wasn’t fantastic, but I think the rest of the lap was okay. I felt okay with the car.”

It might have made it an interesting race had the double world champion had to start from the back of the field. As it is, barring mishap or misadventure, Verstappen is almost certain to cruise to victory.

George Russell certainly thinks so. “I’m sure he’ll be waving to the crowds on his Sunday drive,” said the Mercedes driver who was delighted with P3 behind Norris, especially with his teammate Lewis Hamilton having such a tough qualifying session.

Hamilton did not make it out of Q2 and will start 13th, Wolff placing the blame unequivocally on AlphaTauri’s Yuki Tsunoda, who he accused of impeding Hamilton on his final quick lap. “It’s a shame because the pace was there all weekend and we would have had two cars competing right in the front,” said the Austrian, who urged the stewards to come down hard on the Japanese driver. “If you cheat your tax return and don’t get punished you do it again.”

Hamilton himself did not make much of the Tsunoda incident. “He was in the way a little bit, but it didn’t lose me time. I was just slow today,” he said.

Lewis Hamilton will start 13th on the grid on Sunday Credit: Getty Images/Dan Istitene

That was not a problem for Norris, who looked so chilled-out during the various stoppages in Q3 he appeared to have fallen asleep in the cockpit at one point.

The battle for the podium should be interesting today with six different teams occupying the top six spots on the grid.

Behind Norris and Russell is Williams’s Alex Albon, who impressed again. Then comes Aston Martin’s Fernando Alonso, with Carlos Sainz sixth for Ferrari ahead of Perez, all the way back in seventh.

Wolff stressed he did not mean to imply anything untoward when he described the 1.3sec gap from Verstappen to Perez as “odd”, wondering instead whether the Red Bull car was set up on a knife-edge that only Verstappen can master. Either way, he said, the Dutchman was “on another planet”.

Unless he makes a mistake it is difficult to see past another crushing Verstappen win for him. The local favourite did make reference to the “pressure that is always there” with 105,000 members of the Orange Army roaring him on. But he has history in his sights and has made so few errors this season it would be a major surprise if he did not draw level with Sebastian Vettel with that ninth consecutive win.

“I think after about five [wins] in a row, Seb texted me and said ‘You’ve got to keep it up’ but at that point nine wins seemed like a long way away,” Verstappen said. “It’s not something I have in the back of my head. To be on pole here feels great and we have a very strong car for tomorrow, let’s see what we can do.”

Dutch Grand Prix qualifying classification

  1. Max Verstappen (Ned) Red Bull 1min 10.567secs
  2. Lando Norris (Gbr) McLaren 1:11.104
  3. George Russell (Gbr) Mercedes GP 1:11.294
  4. Alexander Albon (Tha) Williams 1:11.419
  5. Fernando Alonso (Spa) Aston Martin 1:11.506
  6. Carlos Sainz Jr. (Spa) Ferrari 1:11.754
  7. Sergio Perez (Mex) Red Bull 1:11.880
  8. Oscar Piastri (Aus) McLaren 1:11.938
  9. Charles Leclerc (Mon) Ferrari 1:12.665
  10. Logan Sargeant (USA) Williams 1:16.748
  11. Lance Stroll (Can) Aston Martin 1:20.121
  12. Pierre Gasly (Fra) Alpine 1:20.128
  13. Lewis Hamilton (Gbr) Mercedes GP 1:20.151
  14. Yuki Tsunoda (Jpn) Scuderia AlphaTauri 1:20.230
  15. Nico Hulkenberg (Ger) Haas F1 Team 1:20.250
  16. Guanyu Zhou (Chn) Alfa Romeo Racing 1:22.067
  17. Esteban Ocon (Fra) Alpine 1:22.110
  18. Kevin Magnussen (Den) Haas F1 Team 1:22.192
  19. Valtteri Bottas (Fin) Alfa Romeo Racing 1:22.260
  20. Liam Lawson (Nzl) Scuderia AlphaTauri 1:23.420

Was that good?

I think it was one of the better qualifying sessions of the year. There was some jeopardy that Verstappen wouldn’t be in pole. We had a couple of crashes, Norris is back on the front row and Alexander Albon with a storming lap for Williams. Not sure anyone will be able to challenge Verstappen tomorrow, but what else is new?

McLaren’s Zak Brown thinks that Norris had a bit of time in his pocket but not quite the six-tenths that separated him from Verstappen and pole position. 

We’ll return tomorrow with the build-up for the Dutch Grand Prix from around 12.40pm. 

A few drivers summoned to the stewards

Lance Stroll facing a potential grid drop for impeding Lewis Hamilton. 

George Russell speaks after his third

“Really great session, really happy to be here in P3. Came in with a fresh set of ideas, good reset. The lap was okay to be honest. We know we always struggle when it’s either very wet or when it’s the crossover to the slicks and we struggle to get heat into the tyres. Our Saturday weakness is our Sunday strength but hopefully we can have a good fight with Alex, Lando and the rest of the guys. Really happy for Williams and Alex.”

Norris speaks

“I’m happy. P2 was a good result. In these kind of conditions every now and then you hope Max makes a mistake... but he doesn’t. Qualifying is always stressful no matter the conditions. The first half of the lap was mega, the second half of the lap was probably one of the worst second halves I’ve done. I’ve got a bit of work to do. Not the most comfortable but good enough so I’ll take it.”

Verstappen speaks after his pole

“It was a very tricky qualifying, starting of course with the intermediates... it was all about putting your laps in but also staying out of trouble. At the end it was like one dry line in places. We had to risk it a bit but that last lap was very enjoyable. We’ve been to some other places already where we’ve had wet races and stuff... I think we underestimated how quickly it dried. We still did the right thing. The pressure is always there to perform but when you can pull it of it’s incredible.”

Q3 - Classification

  1. VER 1:10.567
  2. NOR +0.537
  3. RUS +0.727
  4. ALB +0.852
  5. ALO +0.939
  6. SAI +1.187
  7. PER +1.313
  8. PIA +1.371
  9. LEC +2.098
  10. SAR +6.181

MAX VERSTAPPEN TAKES POLE FOR THE 2023 DUTCH GRAND PRIX

Horner says it’s a mighty lap from Verstappen. He’s not wrong. Six different cars in the top six but AGAIN it’s Verstappen at the front by a mile. 

Perez 1.3sec down from Verstappen and in seventh. Ouch. 

Q3 - Verstappen goes fastest...

A 1:10.567... what can Norris do? Piastri had just gone second. Norris beats Piastri but cannot challenge Verstappen... he’s half a second down! Still decent but that is a fine lap from Verstappen. 

Alonso into third, but then Albon beats it! What a lap! Russell then nips his old mate Albon for third!

Q3 - Verstappen posts a 24.324 in the first sector

That’s a lot quicker than what Norris previously... but Norris goes quicker this time in sector one.

Verstappen then does the fastest middle sector...

Norris loses a bit of time there...

Q3 - Final runs under way

Ironically the only red flags have been when the track was dry. Well. Mostly. 

All eyes on Verstappen as he begins his final flying lap... can he displace a McLaren?

Are McLaren in with a chance of pole here?

Yes. Definitely. 

Credit: Reuters/Stephanie Lecocq

Q3 - Session resumes

Doesn’t look like anyone will be trying to do two push laps on their final runs. Fair enough. They just need to nail their hot laps. 

How it stands under this red flag

  1. NOR 1:12.049
  2. PIA +0.199
  3. VER +0.340
  4. RUS +0.529
  5. LEC +0.616
  6. PER +1.346
  7. ALB +3.694
  8. SAR +4.699
  9. ALO +5.133
  10. SAI +5.192

Right, this is a bit tricky now

Four minutes gives the drivers a dilemma in how to approach their final runs. Out-push-cool-push? It’s not impossible. You might struggle to get that in and might get caught up in traffic, and then your push lap time will be set before most others’. It’s risky. Out-push-in is the safest option. 

Q3 - RED FLAG

Leclerc has pulled up to the side of the track and it looks like he’s hit the barriers...

He understeered off the track in the middle sector. The tricky double right-handers. It’s a fairly big hit to the left side of the car with the front-left detached. Possible gearbox damage as well as it was a hefty hit to the rear. Not enormous but hefty and possibly at the wrong angle. 

Q3 - Albon aborts his lap

Russell does not do that with his and goes fastest with a 1:12.578 but then Norris beats that by half a second, Piastri slotting into second, 0.2sec or so down on his team-mate. 

Verstappen only third, 0.340sec off Norris... hmmmm. 

Q3 - Albon has set a rapid first sector time

But then Russell beats that by a tenth. Sainz makes a bit of a mess of his first timed lap and aborts it. 

Q3 resumes

The track will have dried out further, of course. Plenty of time left for a few hot laps. 

Right here we go

Let’s get this done. 

Session to resume at 15.11pm BST

Hooray. 8min 13sec left on the clock. It will be a hectic finish. 

Still no word on the restart time

A bit odd, it didn’t look like there was a great deal of damage to the barriers. But apparently there is some damage there, which is the cause for the delay. 

Lewis Hamilton speaks after being eliminated from Q2

“I did two fast laps at the end and the tyres overheated so couldn’t improve on the last lap. Hopefully when the car is a little bit heavier we will be able to progress forward.”

8'13" on the clock

So there is not any jeopardy that drivers will be unable to set a lap time. Sargeant just got onto the damp line and lost the rear at turn two. Shame. It was a good day for him until then. Will take the shine off his best qualifying performance. 

Watch: Sargeant crash brings out a red flag

Q3 - Order as it stands

Only four drivers with a time and one of them is in the wall:

  1. ALB 1:15.743
  2. SAR +1.005
  3. SAI +1.498
  4. RUS +2.502

Q3 - RED FLAG

Sargeant is in the wall! His first Q3 session and it doesn’t last very long at all. Was that on a charge lap? He had just set a half-decent lap. Looks like he’s hit the front and rear of the car on the barriers. Front first and then spinning him around backwards into the barriers at turn two, I think. That’s what it looks like anyway. 

Q3 - Nine minutes remain

Piastri comes straight in to change for slicks. Verstappen the only one out there on intermediates though I suspect he may well be coming in. 

Albon goes fastest so far with a 1:15.743, a second faster than Sargeant and 2.5sec faster than Russell’s Mercedes. 

Q3 begins!

12 minutes to go. Albon, Russell, Sainz and Sargeant are all on soft tyres. Everyone else on intermediates. It looks dry enough for slicks. 

Good stat, this

Q2 - Classification

  1. VER 1:18.856
  2. PIA +0.536
  3. ALB +0.543
  4. ALO +0.573
  5. LEC +0.744
  6. RUS +0.764
  7. NOR +0.913
  8. PER +1.000
  9. SAI +1.073
  10. SAR +1.211
    ELIMINATED: 
  11. STR
  12. GAS
  13. HAM
  14. TSU
  15. HUL

Q2 - Piastri fastest as the clock runs out

Norris is in the drop zone... he cannot afford a bad lap here. Everyone still on intermediates. Hulkenberg into 10th but he surely won’t stay there. He doesn’t as Tsunoda goes 10th... Gasly knocks Hamilton down into 10th and he’s not on an especially good lap.

Sainz goes eighth and knocks Hamilton out! Hamilton comes into the pits... Norris moves into seventh. 

And Sargeant puts in a stormer to get into Q3 for the first time this season! Two Williams cars into Q3 and only one Mercedes...

Q2 - Gasly gets himself out of danger

Verstappen comes into the pits and comes out on the intermediate tyre. Albon leads Russell, Verstappen and Alonso. 

Q2 - Albon continues to go well

Fastest first sector of anyone and is only 0.035sec off Verstappen after two sectors... and crosses the line fastest of anyone. 

Surely someone down there will try slicks. Sargeant? Gasly?

Q2 - Five minutes to go

Perez, in 11th, is improving but is a long way from matching Verstappen who has just moved into the 1:19s, the first man to do so in this session. 

Perez goes second but nearly a whole second slower than Verstappen. 

Q2 - Top 10 as it stands

  1. VER
  2. NOR
  3. HAM
  4. PIA
  5. ALB
  6. RUS
  7. LEC
  8. STR
  9. ALO
  10. SAR

DROP ZONE: PER, TSU, HUL, GAS, SAI

Q2 - The two Mercedes drivers get out of the drop zone

It’s a very dry line in the final corner, though I am not sure it’s dry enough for slick tyres around the rest of the track. 

Credit: Reuters/Yves Herman

Q2 - Drivers in the drop zone

RUS, HUL, GAS, HAM, SAI...

Seven minutes remain. 

Q2 - Sargeant goes fastest but then Verstappen beats that by a second

Alonso is a couple of seconds behind nearly with Stroll half a second ahead of him. Leclerc moves into third for Ferrari. Piastri does the fastest middle sector of anyone... he gets a tow from a car ahead and moves second, 0.709sec behind Verstappen. Perez down in 14th is improving. 

Q2 - Verstappen pops in a 1:21.921

Decent. Let’s see what Hamilton does. Perez is some three seconds off Verstappen and Hamilton is slower still which suggests a couple of warm-up laps. 

Q2 - 14 mins remain

I wonder how long until someone tries slicks. The rain appears to have stopped for now. 

Q2 begins!

Verstappen and Sargeant the first two men out there. Strong from Albon again. 

Q1 ends - Albon fastest

Here’s the full classification:

  1. ALB 1:20.939
  2. VER +0.026
  3. PIA +0.292
  4. NOR +0.337
  5. SAI +0.382
  6. RUS +0.406
  7. STR +0.631
  8. GAS +0.796
  9. TSU +0.842
  10. ALO +0.901
  11. HUL +0.952
  12. HAM +0.980
  13. PER +1.033
  14. LEC +1.080
  15. SAR +1.097
    ELIMINATED:
  16. ZHO
  17. OCO
  18. MAG
  19. BOT
  20. LAW

Q1 - I think Hamilton could be in danger here

But luckily not too many drivers are improving as the track gets a little damper and the sun goes in. Zhou only 15th... Bottas only 18th. Not great from Aston Martin. What can Leclerc do? He goes 14th... so he should be safe. 

Q1 - One minute left

Ocon only 13th... Hamilton into 10th so should be safe. I think. But maybe not, quite a few drivers could move him down into the bottom five. 

Leclerc in danger now, in 18th...

Q1 - Albon fastest now

Ocon, Magnussen, Hamilton, Hulkenberg and Lawson in the drop zone. 

Q1 - Looks like a bit more rain...

Nobody on slicks yet. Now is the crucial time. 

Q1 - Hamilton complains of being blocked by an Aston Martin

Not sure which one. Piastri, meanwhile, nearly collides with the Ferrari of Sainz with Sainz moving across on Piastri, who has to take evasive action. That will almost certainly be a penalty. 

Q1 - McLaren in fine form here as Piastri displaces Norris from P1

Gasly moves into ninth as Verstappen displaces Piastri at the top by 0.024sec. Russell fourth. Perez in seventh and having an okay session. 

Five minutes remain...

Q1 - Norris on another flyer

He should go fastest, knocking Russell off top spot... indeed he does, by 0.618sec. Norris flying in these conditions. 

Credit: Getty Images/Dean Mouhtaropoulos

Verstappen then sets the fastest first sector...

Q1 - Top 10 as it stands

  1. PIA
  2. PER
  3. NOR
  4. ALB
  5. VER
  6. STR
  7. ALO
  8. RUS
  9. HAM
  10. LEC

ELIMINATION ZONE: LAW, BOT, MAG, SAR, GAS

Q1 - It's a Ferrari 1-2 led by Leclerc...

That doesn’t last too long, with Russell and Alonso and also Hamilton beating it before Verstappen does so, 0.007sec ahead of Alonso before Norris beats him by 0.394sec. Yep. One of those sessions. 

Q1 - It's currently a McLaren 1-2 led by Norris

Leclerc gets the fastest first sector time, though. Verstappen currently ninth without a representative lap time. 

Credit: Dean Mouhtaropoulos/Getty Images

Q1 - Verstappen not happy

Spinning “everything, everywhere” he says. Norris moves into first, 1.520sec ahead of Sargeant. This session will see lap times tumble and tumble. 

Q1 - Albon had a moment running across the gravel towards the end of the lap

Hulkenberg runs across the gravel himself at turn one. Verstappen does the same as Bottas leads the way currently from Tsunoda. A lot of exploration of lines and various other bits of the circuit. This session is all about building up to the end of the 18 minutes when the track will be at its driest. 

Q1 - Albon with the first timed lap

A 1:31.315 from the Williams driver which is then beaten by 1.7sec by his team-mate. 

Q1 - 15 mins remain

Everyone is out on track at the moment and it doesn’t exactly look treacherous though we haven’t had many push laps. It could be about to get wetter, too. 

Q1 - 17 mins remain

Nobody on slicks as it turns out. Wise. 

Q1 begins! 18 minutes remain

20 drivers in it, five will be eliminated. 

Might it rain this session?

Drivers are queueing up at the end of the pit lane

And some of them are on slicks?! That’s risky.

The sun has come out at Zandvoort for now

The conditions still look pretty tricky. 

Current constructor standings

Seems like the rain has stopped

Which is what we need. Yes, a wet qualifying is good but it’s no good if the cars cannot run. 

A few showers about still, though. I wonder if we’ll see something similar to qualifying in Belgium going from inters to slicks as the sessions continue. 

It seems like Singapore is the target for Daniel Ricciardo's return

That seems sensible as Monza is surely too soon. Singapore gives him three weeks or so to get into decent shape. These are the remaining races: 

August

27: Dutch Grand Prix, Zandvoort

September

3: Italian Grand Prix, Monza
17: Singapore Grand Prix, Singapore
24: Japanese Grand Prix, Suzuka

October

8: Qatar Grand Prix, Lusail +
22: United States Grand Prix, Austin +
29: Mexico City Grand Prix, Mexico City

November

5: Sao Paulo Grand Prix, Sao Paulo +
18: Las Vegas Grand Prix, Las Vegas
26: Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, Yas Marina

+ Denotes sprint event weekend

It was also a bit slippery out there in FP3, too

As the weather currently looks I am not sure we will see a red-flag free qualifying. That could be fun, though, as long as everybody comes out of it in one piece. 

This was a fairly sketchy moment from the disrupted F2

What is Liam Lawson's racing pedigree?

The Kiwi steps in for Daniel Ricciardo this weekend to make his F1 debut. 

Credit: Getty Images/Vince Mignott

Here’s his recent career results...

2019, FIA F3: 11th
2020, FIA F3: 5th
2021, FIA F2: 9th
2021, DTM: 2nd
2022, FIA F2: 3rd

Driver standings: Top 10

The F2 sprint race is under way at the moment

Or rather it should be going but it’s bucketing it down and they have already had numerous stoppages. 

Just under an hour to go but F1 cars could not run in these conditions. 

Session times for this weekend

Qualifying, Saturday: 2pm
Race, Sunday: 3pm

Times after third and final practice

  1. Max Verstappen (Ned) Red Bull 1min 21.631secs
  2. George Russell (Gbr) Mercedes GP 1:22.010
  3. Sergio Perez (Mex) Red Bull 1:22.631
  4. Fernando Alonso (Spa) Aston Martin 1:22.634
  5. Lewis Hamilton (Gbr) Mercedes GP 1:22.723
  6. Alexander Albon (Tha) Williams 1:22.750
  7. Oscar Piastri (Aus) McLaren 1:22.892
  8. Valtteri Bottas (Fin) Alfa Romeo Racing 1:22.965
  9. Charles Leclerc (Mon) Ferrari 1:23.093
  10. Lando Norris (Gbr) McLaren 1:23.158,
  11. Pierre Gasly (Fra) Alpine 1:23.210
  12. Carlos Sainz Jr (Spa) Ferrari 1:23.438
  13. Yuki Tsunoda (Jpn) Scuderia AlphaTauri 1:23.544
  14. Logan Sargeant (USA) Williams 1:23.570
  15. Nico Hulkenberg (Ger) Haas F1 Team 1:23.640
  16. Esteban Ocon (Fra) Alpine 1:23.80
  17. Lance Stroll (Can) Aston Martin 1:24.058
  18. Liam Lawson (Nzl) Scuderia AlphaTauri 1:26.343
  19. Guanyu Zhou (Chn) Alfa Romeo Racing 1:28.482
  20. Kevin Magnussen (Den) Haas F1 Team No Time

Good afternoon F1 fans

And welcome to our coverage for the 2023 Dutch Grand Prix from Zandvoort. Formula One is back after its three-and-a-bit week summer break but I cannot say that it is all that easy to get enthusiastic about this particular season restarting. Red Bull’s dominance – or rather Max Verstappen’s dominance in the Red Bull – has dulled the appeal of it all a little. 

The Dutchman has won the last eight rounds and 10 of the 12 so far, with the RB19 victorious in all of them. Verstappen leads team-mate Sergio Perez by 125 points and his third world championship. In fairness, it would be a pretty interesting season were Verstappen taken out of the equation, but that is not the reality we live in. And, although the fight behind Red Bull has been good, the bottom line is who is winning and there has been a painful lack of variety so far this year. 

Even in the Lewis Hamilton and Mercedes years of dominance we had good races, even if the outcome of the championship was obvious. And at least Nico Rosberg was mostly a thorn in his side. It has been a long time since Perez was that to Verstappen. 

Anyway, Zandvoort is a decent place for the race and with the threat of rain throughout the weekend it could “spice things up” as the cliche goes. That said, we’ve had a fair few wet sessions over the past couple of months and I am not sure it has made things all that interesting. Or rather, it hasn’t changed the outcome of who stands on the top step of the podium. As I have said many times this season, the best driver in the dry is often the best in the wet and the same goes for the car. 

The rain fell during FP3 Credit: Reuters

First and second practice were dry but final practice was punctuated with heavy-ish rain showers. We had red and yellow flags and plenty of drivers locking up and sliding off track and the forecast is for more throughout the day and possibly tomorrow. 

The big news this weekend, though, is that Daniel Ricciardo has been ruled out of the action with a broken wrist after crashing in second practice yesterday. It was a slightly strange incident that saw him follow compatriot Oscar Piastri into the wall at turn three and scans show a broken metacarpal. He had only just returned to F1 two races previously so this is a setback. Liam Lawson steps into his place for at least this weekend. You would suspect Ricciardo might find it difficult to be fit enough to take part at Monza in less than a week.